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[10 Mar 2008|03:52pm]

It looks to me like no one has posted here for a year and a half, but maybe I just don't understand how to use this Livejournal.<br /><br />For me I think the term "ex-catholic" is sort of wishful thinking; I went to catholic schools from grades 1 through 12 and there's no way I'm going to be able to pretend <i>that</i> never happened. I eventually found Ayn Rand so I'm OK now, but I do think I'm kind of weird; catholics who still "believe" drive me nuts, but I don't seem to really "click" with any other atheists or Objectivists I know.
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Has anybody run into this madness… [24 Sep 2006|12:45pm]

[ mood | indescribable ]

I've got a catholic friend who has a sexual fetish for pregnant women—who are virginal like the Madonna and who is also a fetishist for the baby Jesus. He is constantly drawing pictures of pure pristine pregnant women and then drawing pictures of the woman tugging on the finger of a baby. He's drawn this picture over and over again. Ex-girlfriends, celebrities. It's crazy.

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AAAAAAARRRRGH!!!!!! [23 Jul 2005|02:58pm]

[ mood | PISSED! ]

(Xposted to various and sundry pissed-off-nonchristian groups)

Sorry, but badly need to vent.

I just started a new support group for ex-Christians over at nolongerxian

I made the group late yesterday. Basically, just trying to make safe space where those of us having trouble recovering can support each other, and the Jesus freaks won't have a chance to try and "win us back". Put the comm up, put out a few promos...no memberships yet, but considering the zillion groups on LJ that's not exactly a surprise.

I put on the "post by members only" setting, for an obvious reason. I just knew some officious Christian jerk would completely ignore the comm's purpose and disclaimer, and just HAVE to come around trying to sell his religion. What I didn't know is, that setting apparently still allows anonymous posters to post. How do I know?

Because I just logged in and found a chirpy "Jesus loves youuuuuuuu!!!!!" style piece of spew from some anonymous asshole on MY new comm. I deleted the post, but damn it, now I feel fucking violated.

Why won't they leave us alone? Why do they have to advertise their religion EVERY GODDAMNED PLACE, including those SPECIFICALLY set up to give people some privacy from them? FUCK! *headdesk headdesk headdesk*

Anyway, by way of introduction, I'm 33, VERY ex-Catholic, now marginally Pagan, and a writer. And not normally this ranty, but damn...

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Happy and Free [15 Apr 2005|07:42pm]

Greetings! I just found this community when alnowatzki mentioned it another community. I would like to make an introductory post.

From my essay Why I Am No Longer a Catholic, which discusses the reasons for my apostasy in detail:
The story of how I entered the Church is a very common one: my Catholic parents had me baptized not long after my birth, brought me to church each Sunday, and sent me to formal religious education at the church until I made confirmation at the age of thirteen. As do many children, I simply accepted what I was told by adults in essentially all matters without questioning it, and this certainly extended to what I was told about God and religion.

While my enthusiasm for religion waxed and waned, I cannot recall any doubts of any significance until the summer after I graduated from high school, at the age of seventeen. For the next eight years I struggled from time to time with these doubts, and reassured myself with various reasons for believing the Catholic faith true.
I considered myself agnostic after my apostasy on 3 October 2004, and I became an atheist a few months later. That's where I am today, happy and free.
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My introduction :) [14 Feb 2005|08:57am]

Hello all! Just joined this community and thought I should introduce myself.

My parents had me baptized when I was born, and had me attend Catholic schools from grades 1-12. My family attended church sporadically; we did the usual christmas and easter masses, and also went whenever my parents began to feel guilty about not going. Never once did I find church remotely interesting, and perhaps more importantly, remotely uplifting. I received communion, I was confirmed, yet still, I felt nothing that I was supposed to. I felt happy that I was making my family proud, but that was about it.

Starting university was a big relief. No more religion classes, and my parents started to become less insistent that I come to mass with them. I can almost remember the exact moment when I came to the realization that I just didn't believe in God. All those years of nominal belief were, I think, more of a desire for an afterlife than anything else... and even then, I had never really bought into the idea of heaven.

Sometimes I like to think that I have no problem with the Catholic church specifically. Then I realize that no, I really do have problems with catholicism. Attitudes towards homosexuality, birth control, and women, to name a few. I have problems with some aspects of the catholic school system; there was NO mention of birth control in the equivalent of sex ed ("family life") at all. Birth control was taught in biology class during the last year of high school -- and at my school, biology was an optional class, only taken by the "smart" students. I guess that I'm most unhappy with the unrealistic (and in my opinion, unhealthy) attitude towards human sexuality that I was bombarded with while in grade school. It wasn't helpful to me in the least.

Ugh, and the bishop where I live is very very vocal, intolerant and often (in my opinion) quite offensive. I'm a huge fan of keeping religion out of government, and it scares me that people like him are intent on forcing their belief system on everyone.

Anyway, I hope that wasn't too rant-y or random ^^ Erm, since this really was intended to be an introduction, here are some other random tidbits about me: I'm 20 years old, currently attending university and (hopefully) only one year away from obtaining a degree in ecology. I'm a big fan of observing religious debates, but have very little experience in terms of, um... actually contributing ^^ But I'm doing my best to change that :)

Thanks for reading and I look forward to getting to know you all!
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[12 Feb 2005|06:30pm]

[ mood | confused ]

Hi, I'm Joe. I'm 16, and have been raised Catholic. Attended CCD from kindergarden until 11th grade, went to church every week, went to confession every month, and had a family rosary about as often. But in this past year I've really been questioning my faith and now...I don't know what I am. I thought my problem was just with the Catholic church and I was going to look at Methodism and maybe some other denominations but now I don't know if I have faith in Christianity at all.

Anyways, as I'm sure all of you can relate to, this is a hard, weird time.

How did you all go about telling your parents? I just know mine are going to go crazy when I do tell them...I'm almost wondering if it might be better to wait until I get to college and to just be silent for the time being.

Where do you think faith comes from? I've always heard it defined as "belief in something when common sense tells you not to" or something inspirational like that. But I realized, the only reason I'e had "faith" in the Church up until this point in my life was because I was conditioned to think that way. And that's not faith. That's indoctrination.

When you renounced Catholicism, did you take up another religion? I feel as though having these beliefs all my life have made me dependent on something to believe in, and maybe that's what makes it hardest. Which I guess makes sense, if you had something like cookies every weekend growing up, and you decided to stop eating cookies, you'd probably want to eat something like donuts instead. And after all, I know kids brought up without any particular religion that don't have any spiritual longing. But I feel like I should be able to move on without it.

What is the nature of knowledge? Is it sinful? According to the Bible, Adam and Eve were instructed not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And just about all people who renounce religion do it because they think long and hard about it and decide they can't believe that way. Which I guess could make sense, but it seems so hard to try to wrap my mind around the idea of knowledge as bad. It's as if God doesn't want us to have it because then we'd realize that he's not there. That doesn't make sense, but I can't put it into words. And shouldn't ignorance be sinful? The nature of sin is the perpetuation of evil, the nature of evil is the perpetuation of suffering...

I don't know. At this point I'm more rambling to myself than making any sense, I guess. I'm just really confused. Any insight or comments or suggestions would be really appreciated.

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My story.....as such [10 Feb 2005|08:20am]

[ mood | bitchy ]

I left the church 2 yrs ago. I could sit there and say 'this is the word of the lord" etc when I really didn't buy into the whole doctrine. That and the fact that I have come to the realization that God probably does not exist or if he does...he's moved on to some remote corner of the universe now and doesn't give a rat's ass about what is going on here. I loved what one of you wrote about the priest stated that all non-christians are going to hell. How amusing and ego-centric. Yet the same hypoctrite will preach during his sermon that God is a loving God....sure. All loving deities condemn 2/3rds of the population of the worlds they create to eternal damnation..not to mention the billions of non-believers throughout history.

More ranting about my exodus at a later date...work beckons.


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[08 Feb 2005|06:55pm]

Hey there, guys. I'm 16 and attended Catholic school from kindergarten through grade 8, which makes it about age 5 through 13. My parents actually made the descision to switch me over from private to public school after that, and as upset as I was about leaving my friends, I'm better off for it.
Back to private school: every Wednesday we'd have a priest lecture us during our regular Religion class, during which we were free to ask questions. One of my friends had asked about yoga, and the priest immediately told her that it was sacrilegious. At one point in time, our entire class argued with him on one topic in particular: if a man on the opposite side of the world spends his entire life doing good deeds, but has never heard of Jesus, how does he spend is afterlife? Apparently, in hell. This sent me (and I assume a handful of others) on my way to atheism. I'm now viciously opposed to all private religious schools because they seem to teach nothing but intolerance. Ironically, most of my friends are either Catholic or Lutheran, but none of them are fanatics.

What makes it worse is thinking about all the younger kids at the school and wondering how they're growing up. The way they're sheltered... it's sort-of nauseating.
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[08 Feb 2005|02:58pm]

Does it count if I became an ex-catholic at the age of 11? I went to sunday school once a week up until I was 13 and said to my parents, I don't want to go anymore. Even still, the catholic church had a huge impact on me. I was so guilt-ridden about sex before marriage, I could barely enjoy it for several years. And I was very homophobic for most of my life. I only started accepting gays when we found out my aunt was a lesbian.

I got into Hinduism about four years ago, and I'm very comfortable with my beliefs now. I can actually talk to my father about it to a certain extent. I used to be afraid of telling him because he's so religious, but he's better now. He's a lot more accepting than he was when I first told him I wasn't Catholic.
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